Just let your starter go for a while. Clazar, I have been experimenting with using ginger as a natural preservative in bread. sd does this naturally and better though so no vinegar would be needed in a sd gf bread. The vinegar also aids in creating gluten and developing the dough’s flavor. ascorbic reacts faster, typically 1 hr after mixing. The Fresh Loaf is not responsible for community member content. Increasing the acidy slows down the fermentation process (it doesn’t stop it altogether), which gives gluten better opportunity to form. The pH of such starters (remember, throughout Italy there are vastly different means of maintaining a starter on a professional level, and I say this with direct, personal knowledge) would be in line with what you're describing, especially if using a wheat flour with very low ash content. Andy - Gluten-free bread is often reluctant to rise. One of the YouTube videos that I watched about "No Knead" bread added some beer which I have no problem with, but also added a teaspoon of vinegar. That style of starter isn't necessarily Italian; it's very Massari (yes, I own both of his books, too). I was very surprised, i could never imagine that a rye preferment could even *improve* the rheology of a dough. With that preferment I had to raise  hydratation of the dough to 78% overall and the bread came out MUCH better than I ever thought possible with that flour. Vinegar also reacts with baking soda and creates more creating carbon dioxide gas. The water in my area is slightly alkaline (7.2-8.2) so this amount of vinegar seems to put the dough into that "slightly acidic" enviroment that yeast thrive in, but isn't nearly enough acid to give the dough a sour flavor. Vinegar [acetic acid] is primarily added to commercial bread dough as a preservative, as it lowers the pH of the dough. I add vinegar to the dough for my Double Crusty bread, not a sourdough, and it gives the bread incredible lift. Acidification leads to the solubility and eventual hydrolysis of mineral salts bound with phytate, and ultimately leading an increased bioavailability of dietary fibre found in rye. While not exactly bread, gingerbread cookies are a holiday favorite that you prepare by adding vinegar to the wheat flour, vanilla, butter, sugar, cloves, molasses, nutmeg, sugar, and corn syrup. But what of using longer fermentation processes in respect of Gluten Free? Add a 1/2 teaspoon of vinegar for each teaspoon of lemon juice in your recipe. Hi Bunjie, Vinegar [acetic acid] is primarily added to commercial bread dough as a preservative, as it lowers the pH of the dough. Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) is usually found in commercial breads for the same reasons. Longer fermentation will generate an acidic environment over time, so it will be interesting to read what you find about any potential role for vinegar, or ascorbic acid. When activity STOPS, the mixture flattens out. If you like sourdough bread, then you can readily accept this idea. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Site searching will bring up many threads, There seemed to be a time this was popular, http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/11796/effect-vinegar-instant-yeast-dough, Yeast likes a neutral to slightly acidic environment, Tang Zhong, Ricotta, Scalded Multigrain with and without, Cranberries & Pecans, WEIZENBRÖTCHEN Rolls Sourdough Version II with Durum, Purple Sweet Potato Black Sesame Sourdough. Also fermentimg the finished loaf (prior to prooving and baking) overnight in the fridge will also allow flavours to develop. Most bakers recommend adding one tablespoon of vinegar to the dough for every 2 1/2 cups flour in the recipe. Yeast like an acidic environment, so the vineger is stimulating for them and makes them more active. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Obviously it was sour as hell, as I intended. I have been under the impression that acidification of rye doughs was primarily to suppress amylase activity so as to not destabilize the starch gels before the bread has risen in the oven. Every commercial GF bread and baking mix I've seen have also had some sort of acid, usually ascorbic acid. Many thanks for all your comments on what vinegar does to dough. You can also substitute vinegar for lemon. So strong that as a freestanding loaf it rises vertically. Acids acting as an oxidising agent is universally accepted; just Google it. I think we can agree that an alkaline environment is not good for yeast. Actually, coagulation occurs almost immediately! sanfranciscensis is involved. It acts as a dough conditioner as it slows down the yeast. You can also substitute vinegar for lemon. a better to to measurenit is thus: straight yeasted doughs finish fermentation with a usual ph of 5.0-5.1. http://www.muehlenchemie.de/downloads-future-of-flour/FoF_Kap_15.pdfy. I always thought that freshly-mixed dough as you describe was slightly acidic; good to have that quantified. It was typed on a typewriter. And as a professional baker the thought of vinegar in sourdough makes me cringe. Can anyone tell me what adding vinegar to a dough mix does for the resulting mix. Vinegar is acetic acid. I very much agree with you that the inclusion of an acid in Gluten Free bread is common, and its benefits are manifest. What vinegar does do, like all dough oxidisers, is alter the dough rheology by effectively tightening the glutenin and gliadin, making for a prematurely strong dough with increased fermentation tolerance. I can't remember where I first read about using vinegar to get a higher rise, but here's another thread on TFL that talks about vinegar: http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/11796/effect-vinegar-instant-yeast-dough. the mininum threshold for inhibitory effects vary. I have a self-published cookbook from an author that added fresh ginger to every loaf because that was "good for the yeast". In fact, ascorbic acid is an ingredient in "quick rise" yeast because it helps to activate it. different acids affect yeasts differently. There are many reasons to use an ingredient and it can be very  educational to see all the different posts and ideas. longer sd ferments can generate sufficient exopolysaccharide production to help strengthen this network. Log in or register to post comments; ananda. Now, a small amount of vinegar added to bread dough with yeast is a different matter. Hence why sourdough yeast contains limited sacchromyces cerevisiae and is noted for utilising yeast strains such as candida millieri and sacchromyces exegus...strains which can tolerate more acidic conditions. the amounts for acetic are stated above. have you used soy flour or soy milk powder? I think the reason for the apparent differences in our responses to this question comes from the original focus of our answers. I've often thrown in a splash of balsamic vinegar as I'm mixing up the ingredients, I think it adds a nice taste.

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